So what graduated you from pasta to properties?

That's a very good question.

So I can't remember when it was, but it must have been when I was working in branch sometime in 2020, 2021.

At that point in time, I was on the telecounter.

And then a customer, I think about my age, well, back then, about 20, 21, He came over and he's like, I want to do a real-time gross transfer because I'm buying a property.

I was like, oh, you can do that at this age.

And then I started chatting to him.

Did you go to Ballarat to look at the property? Not even