Yeah.

It was a really big bracha in disguise.

Um, it, it, it was, it was a really, really big, big decision.

Um, I do think that I, I, I... a lot of women and girls and even men are coming over to me and, and they heard that I did the surgery, and, A, people literally don't talk about it.

Like, who doesn't want to be fit? Who doesn't wanna be healthy? What's the problem? What...

It doesn't mean that you're any less than, you know, this Victoria's Secret model who's not eating at all and working out, and, like, you're both...

A- and I'm not gonna look like a Victoria's Secret model.

Oh, wow

yeah so can you talk a little bit more about your postpartum experience you kind of mentioned that everything went downhill after having after having your baby so what so what was your experience like

yeah i haven't spoken about this in a long time it's like bringing up stuff um so After I had my baby, I had a four-degree tear.

He was born naturally.

I had a 27-hour labor.

My epidural stopped working as I was pushing.

I had the most incredible, incredible doula that if it wasn't for her, I probably would have not been alive today.

Her name is Hani Gordon.

i remember that