So Dina, uh, how did you first hear about this case? Like, how did the Starved Rock murders get on your radar screen? Tell me organically how that kinda came about with you.

So first of all, um, it started when I was 16.

I went out to the Starved Rock Lodge and started working as a bus girl and a dishwasher, and I was reading The Starved Rock Murders by Steve Stough.

And here, I was surprised that here I was working with two people that worked with Chester back in the day when the murders happened.

And so I was gonna ask these people, like, what they thought.

So one of 'em was Josephine Schmidt, and she was around, um, back then working for, uh, Nick Spiros as a bookkeeper.

So I approached her and asked her whether she thought Chester was innocent, and she said she did.

Anything stand out? Anything else?