Who was one of your, or who was some of the most typical opponents you played against? And you come off the park and you think to yourself, oof.

Obviously, I remember one day after the training session on a Monday, the team was flying to Barcelona.

We played Barcelona.

and at the time i was at the conversation with the doctor and my groin was very painful so i needed an operation yes so the doctor said to me yes we have like a specialist from belgium will come to lead for your person so the monday after training i'm i went back home and martin called me he said where are you i said i'm home he said no I need you to come to Barcelona so you can come by yourself.

We will book the flight.

You go there.

So I went to Barcelona the next day, arrived to the hotel, and just simply said to me, tomorrow you don't start.

To be able to play for this club.

Do, do you mind telling us a little bit about that?

Uh, and the thing was, like, something I had since I'm born with, and, uh, 'cause my brothers also had this.

So I didn't have any cartilage on my knee.

But they discovered that when I was in Montpellier and training with the professional teams.

They send me to hospital, and they discovered that I didn't have any cartilage on my right knee.

So the news was just simple for the professor.

"You cannot play football anymore." And it was a big shock for me.

Yeah.

Am I right in saying that too? Did you come up against Ronaldinho?

Yes, I did.

The dreams come true because when, for example, you won the game, people are talking about Ajax because I scored this game.

and talking about Juventus' game at home.

But I'm talking about Barcelona away because of one of the reasons people maybe don't know.

We played this game, full stadium.

The team was like Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, all the big names there.

Willie McKay, yes.