Um, you know, it helps if you played Magic or something in the past obviously, but [chuckles]-

Yeah.

Yeah.

And those are my favorite kind of people.

Like they are-- They had, they don't have preconceived notions, right? And they've lived a normal life and have a normal trading card game, work life, or family life balance, right? They're not just all in on trading card games.

And if that is your life, that's fine if, if, you know, you chose that life for you.

But I have found that that's probably not the best way to live anything, not just trading card games.

Mm-hmm