Can you tell us how your research and painting of the Arctic has evolved over time?

Well, um, what's really fun about this exhibition and returning to the Arctic is that's kind of where I began getting deeply involved with the whole idea of climate change.

Uh, it was all around us, and it was about 2005, '6.

Uh, it hit me that me being a landscape painter my, for my whole practice up until then, uh, I needed to do more than just paint beautiful pictures of stuff all over the world, geological phenomenon, that interested me because I wasn't sure anymore if these landscapes would continue to exist.

And I, that was prompted by Elizabeth Kolbert's book that came out, Notebooks on a Catastrophe, in 2006, and, and then there was Al Gore's movie also, I think also in, in 2006.

So around that time, it hit me, I gotta do more.

I gotta figure out how I can enter the conversation about climate change and its urgency way back then, when we didn't even call it climate change.

... sharing with you?