do

a show in Atlanta.

Thank God for Southside.

I love Southside.

My writing partner's from Chicago.

We created a show with his brother, Sultan, that I think will always stand as one of the best, most accurate, authentic representations of the South Side of Chicago.

But we sold a show called Brothers in Atlanta.

And they were in a

Mm-hmm.

Um, except to say that, like, yeah, if you...

Like, there's some basic song construction and, and having a catchy hook, but I don't, I don't think The Beatles have a monopoly on that, you know? So I don't, I don't always hear...

Maybe I'm like, maybe I'm a little bit like Craig in the sense that when I hear it now, it's hard to hear it in some ways in, with 1993 ears.

I don't know why necessarily this was the sound that got us away from hair metal, because it's using the same instruments.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think the only thing I'd say is that, like, you know, when I was 24, I appreciated all the sonic things I was picking up on, you know, the White Album and Revolver, but I may not have known what an overdub...

I guess he would've known what an overdub was though, 'cause he was in the, he was in bands.

Right.

It's just projecting.

They're just projecting their own sort of like larcenous thoughts on these, you know, poor people who, for all purposes, should be given the chance to, like you said, get the money, help themselves out.

Yes, maybe some of them would spend it in ways that aren't gonna help their situation, but it's better than these people who definitely spent the money in ways that didn't help anybody's situation.

in Los Angeles, California.

I, I, I was, I was told early on, and I, I, I don't know if this is 100, but I, I, if, basically, in other countries, when people, you know, fall on hard times or find themselves, you know, financially, you know, at their lowest, there's this sense of, "Oh, we need to help them out because there but for the grace of God go I." And it's really only in certain countries like our own where, you know, a lot of people look at the poor and think, "Well, it's their fault." You know?

Diallo, thank you for writing that wonderful Traitors song earlier.

Oh, no, thank you.

And, and can I just say [laughs] as, well, uh, obviously, on loan from my friend Bronwyn.

[laughing] Uh, can I just say that that song is amazing, your song is amazing.

I mean, make some noise for the Watch What Happens crew.

[cheering] They are so talented.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.