What did those more difficult chapters teach you about leadership and resilience? I

mean, it taught both.

leadership, resilience, and I don't know, I don't wanna say politics and cheating and what have you.

In 2010, it's crazy, because it was 16 years ago, we were- That's wild.

The target at the end of 2010, we had a giant expose on Good Morning America come out with a pink product, a solution that wasn't our solution.

And they alleged that we contained a controversial ingredient called formaldehyde in our product.

To be clear, formaldehyde has never been a beauty ingredient.

And what do you think, like, what have you learned from these failures that you've had?