Yeah.

For sure, and it's constant problem-solving.

Uh, that band pr- in particular, e- but every band I've been in certainly, um, and, and generally the way that I work for my own stuff, it's constant problem-solving because it's so, uh, it's so based on the art and the vision.

Um, and so you just figure out a way to, to attain whatever you hear in your head.

There's no rhyme or reason.

Um, there's no limitations really on, on that other than your own.

Uh, there are...

How does that get, um, make its way to the rest of the group? Is that something that comes first or comes later or?