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Devin Hartman

Devin Hartman

Oct 6, 2026

7:52
Who should be a part of it but so far hasn't been?
7:56
Yeah, so I think, and you see this broadly in the power industry, I think you have the developers, right, the folks who build the infrastructure and own it, operate it, and then you also have the folks, you know, the consumers who are the other beneficiaries of this, right? So, right, the you know, the power plant owners and the consumers, and then, of course, the transmission developers themselves.
8:19
Now, we see this in every industry.
8:21
It's not unique to the power industry, but suppliers tend to have very concentrated interests in a certain policy arena, right? And the more Byzantine that area is, That complexity means you have to get involved with very complex regulatory processes, and transmission is exceptional in that regard.
8:45
And what it does is it concentrates more the interest of participation in those suppliers, whereas the broader beneficiaries, like consumers, are very dispersed, and they're harder to organize and represent.
9:01
And it's very similar with taxpayer interest, for example, too, right? And so a lot of times what you see is a very small group of suppliers, very well represented in the policy process.
9:14
Consumers are oftentimes...
11:21
Let's talk consumers first, though.

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