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Sep 15, 2026
New Type of Royalty Company, But Can They Really Scale the Model? | Nations Royalty CEO Interview
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51:58AntonioHOST
So yeah, what can you tell me about that?

Derrick PattendenGUEST
So I started off by saying in some cases it's somewhat justified in the sense this space is so opaque and confidential because basically mining companies won't, you know, if you want to be an investor in a Canadian mining company and you go ask them, hey, do you have an IBA with this nation? They'll say yes.

Derrick PattendenGUEST
So that does make some of the benchmarking a bit hard for these nations, or sorry, for these mining companies to understand what let's say the modern payment terms are.

Derrick PattendenGUEST
But one thing some of them maybe do wrong is they don't put enough time or effort ahead of the IBA negotiation into understanding as best they can what various nations are getting across the country.
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79:36AntonioHOST
But so, yeah, what do you make of that? How's that looking? What's the timeline on that? Are they going to find someone to finance this thing? What does that look like?
Why Nations Royalty Could Become The Next Franco Nevada
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Derrick PattendenGUEST
So, uh, all the, all the royalties in the company are through the impact and benefit agreements from the Nisga'a Nation, our largest shareholder.

Derrick PattendenGUEST
They've vended those into the company in exchange for shares in order to start it out, and that's what makes them a 72% shareholder, because they took stock for that.

Derrick PattendenGUEST
And we're Canada's first and largest majority indigenous-owned public company.
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Kody PennerGUEST
We're in the business of, of pooling indigenous royalties, so if indigenous groups decide that that is not what they want, they don't wanna be a part of that, that's the number one, one issue for me.
Why Nations Royalty Could Become The Next Franco Nevada
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Derrick PattendenGUEST
sure so all the all the royalties in the company are through the impact and benefit agreements from the nishka nation our largest shareholder they vended those into the company in exchange for shares in order to start it out and that's what makes them a 72 shareholder because they took stock for that and we're canada's first and largest majority indigenous owned public company so there's literally thousands of stocks in canada there's one that's majority indigenous owned And the first asset, the impact benefit agreement in the company is on Bruce Jack.

Derrick PattendenGUEST
High-grade underground gold mine owned by Newmont makes about 200,000 ounces a year.
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Kody PennerGUEST
So if Indigenous groups decide that that is not what they want, they don't want to be a part of that, that's the number one issue for me.
