What was it like in there and walk us through everything?

Yeah.

It was a big play, man, for me and for the team.

Truthfully, it was, it was really just being patient.

Cause as you know, like that whole game, it was, we rushing and Joe's getting that ball out quick.

Then they hit us with a few rounds and, I remember just going on the sideline talking to Keanu, like, bro, like, I got to get something.

I think it was going to halftime.

What does it feel like going from year one to year two in your game and how your pass rush has evolved?

And, uh, it just, couldn't ask for anything else from him.

Yeah, I remember coming in, doing my, um, combine visit at the combine, and as soon as I walk in the room, it was like I knew Mike T for, like, two, three years.

We just got down, got to talking.

Not even talking football yet, just asking how it was, talking about families and things like that.

Um, and just in the team meeting, I remember our very first team meeting, um, Mike T, he w- how he talks, like, you in team meeting, you ready to go run through a wall as soon as you get done talking in that team meeting.

'Cause just how he's motivating his players and how he's, um, wanting to get everything out of his players.

And, and that's something that I really love about Mike T.

That's you

How different was that recruiting process?

So high school, I was under-recruited, most people would say.

I had four top schools come in.

That was Ole Miss, Purdue, Michigan State, and Memphis.

Ole Miss wanted me for O-line.

Then the rest, I was going to go to Purdue.

My D-line coach ended up getting fired at Purdue.

Was it different than Mel Tucker when you left him for Michigan State? How different was that?