Mm-hmm.

And that's what all the headlines have been about these last few months.

And so that's, you know, that's, that's sort of the original story.

But then when you look a little bit under the layer, under the first layers, and you don't have to look that deep, this just isn't what has been grabbing the headlines, is that H- um, uh, excuse me, Irregular, the company doing the testing, they later acknowledged that, "Whoops, we accidentally left the door open.

That was our fault.

We made a mistake." They put out a whole blog saying that these alleged rogue AI incidents, they didn't actually break out of the sandbox, Irregular, they left the door open.

And they said it was a flaw on their end that they have since fixed this, patched it up, and it's not gonna happen again.

Okay

What's the, what's the meat here? Let's get into it.

Yeah, and I definitely agree.

It's easy to just to immediately see an Israeli company and then assume the worst because of everything else we know, which is understandable.

And in fact, when I was researching this, when I decided that this was going to be an article I wanted to write, I kind of had a suspicion.

I was like, there's something here.

I need to look further into all these different rogue AI incidents.

And I saw one or two reports mentioning that there was a shared company at the heart of the incidents related to OpenAI, Meta, Google, and Anthropic.

What are your thoughts on where we're going with this dynamic with Trump, the next election, you know, anything? Sure.

What's the, what's the, the meat here? Let's get into it.

Yeah, and I, I definitely agree it's easy to just, to immediately see an Israeli company and then assume the worst because of everything else we know, um, which is understandable.

And in fact, you know, when I was researching this, when I decided that this was gonna be an article I wanted to write, um, I kind of had a suspicion.

I was like, there's something, you know, something here.

I need to look further into all these different rogue AI incidents, and I saw a, a one or two reports mentioning that there was a shared company at the heart of the incidents related to OpenAI, M- uh, Meta, Google, and Anthropic.

So the big four AI firms that have all claimed that they've had rogue AI incidents where, you know, their agents broke out, hacked other companies, things of that sort.

So I kinda was falling into that same tendency.

... because of the way that they set this up, so it's hard to make this choice.

How did you land up incarcerated the first time?

So I had been addicted to crystal meth for about nine months.

January 2005, I, I, uh, I tried it for the first time.

I had actually started to try to get myself, and, and was succeeding, getting myself sober prior to this.

That period I described post-high school, drinking Xanax, ecstasy, um, I was just in a blackout stage for quite a while.

And, um, I managed to somehow get myself a job and that w-- and find a, a nice young lady and get a new apartment, all while sort of under the influence of Xanax and not remembering much of how I made it happen.

But then sober enough to like, "Hey, I think I got myself somewhere good.

And I found the juxtaposition of those to be really interesting.

So how did that lead to journalism in particular?

Yeah.

So, and I do want to mention, by the way, just in case anybody is curious about that story, I actually did release a memoir about it just earlier, actually at the end of 2025.

So it's called A Man of My Word, How I Overcame Addiction, Depression, and Mental and Physical Prisons.

You can find it at amanofmyword.com if you want all the fun and dark and details.

Um, but so when I got out of prison, I'm a felon now, as I said, and if you know anything about being a felon, this means that you can't get jobs, many places, you can't get rented certain places.

People might judge you just because they assume whatever they assume, you know, they hear felon, they might think that means you're dangerous, you're violent or whatever.

Who has all the power today? Who runs the world?

Like I voted for Trump every time, but I look at what's going on right now and especially being used, uh, you know, how, uh, they're using ICE as an excuse to, to just absolutely load up the surveillance state right now and all the conservatives who s- in theory are, should be against it are just like have their eyes closed or like are allowing it to come because it's for, you know, d- you know, they're, they're, they're buying the Kool-Aid that it's the good guys doing it.

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm really, um, glad that we're, we're broaching this topic, uh, because I think it is so important.

And, um, you know, I, I grew up in an apolitical home, which I think maybe helped me out because I didn't have parents hard left, hard right anything.

They were just...

I don't think I ever heard politics talked about in my, in my home.

Um, I started to get into politics in the end of my high school career.

I watched 9/11 of course, I graduated 2003, I watched the bombing of Iraq and for a moment they had me and I'm like, "We're getting the bad guys." And then I very much became anti-war and, and because of that, anti George W.

Why should people be concerned? How much, what has happened in the last, let's just talk about two, three years.

Is that something you're creating a community there?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's an ongoing project, but I originally wrote about this idea.

It's called the Conscious Agora Eco Village and my 2017 book called Manifesto of the Free Humans.

And it was just me kind of after the book is sort of part of a trilogy that's a You could say it's a spiritual anarchist manifesto that me and one of my friends wrote together, the Conscious Resistance Trilogy.

And the final book of the series is kind of trying to put it in practical terms.

What do you think they're doing? What's the direction that they're moving towards? Is it just like full social credit system China? What's your perspective on technology right now?

[laughs]

Yeah.

And j- just to add to that one more point on, on your c- you know, the tinfoil hat question, 'cause this is something that I, I've asked myself for one particular reason, and that is because automatic license plate readers are not a new technology.

This has been around for...

I mean, I f- I found some articles I wrote for Anti-Media in 2014, for, uh, Ben Swann's old school Troth- Truth in Media website in 2015.

So people like myself in the independent media and others have been warning about automatic license plate readers for over a decade, and how this is a tool that could be used in a lot of negative ways.

And I don't know if it just, you know, it wasn't the time.

So just any thoughts on, uh, w- here on Mexico?

You know, any other thoughts, by the way, you wanna add to that, that they've double-crossed, I guess?

Yeah.

So there's a few articles of mine I would point to.

You might already have them pulled up, but that kind of touch on this, and, uh, it's been a theme that I've touched on probably, I guess, the last year, year and a half since Trump's come into office.

Specifically, I'm talking about articles that are themed about M- MAHA being betrayed or MAHA sort of being, you know, limited hangout, whatever you wanna say.

And I, and I, I say that with the caveat that, yes, there were a lot of genuine activists who got into that movement because they genuinely do care about fluoride and vaccines and glyphosate and all, any number of issues.

But I've tried to show, yeah, like MAHA bait and switch.

Go ahead.

You know, any other thoughts, by the way, you wanna add to that, that they've double-crossed, I guess?

Yeah.

So there's a few articles of mine I would point to, you might already have them pulled up, but that kind of touch on this.

And, uh, it's been a theme that I've touched on probably, I guess, the last year, year and a half since Trump's come into office.

Specifically, I'm talking about articles that are themed about M- MAHA being betrayed or MAHA sort of being, you know, limited hangout, whatever you wanna say.

I, and I, I say that with the caveat that, yes, there were a lot of genuine activists who got into that movement because they genuinely do care about fluoride and vaccines and glyphosate and al- any number of issues.

But I've tried to show, yeah, like MAHA bait and switch.

Go ahead.

the dunderheads on the board have no idea what's going on, they're absolutely clueless, um, you know, this is being rolled out, and I think there is that alternate a- that alternative agenda.

Absolutely.

I mean, this is, uh, for people who want to know more about the influence of Big Wireless, I, I mentioned my, my 5G documentary.

That more specifically deals with 5G.

But I think it's chapter five or six of my Pyramid of Power series, which everybody can find for free at thepyramidofpower.net. We have an episode dedicated specifically to Big Wireless.

And, you know, we understand the power of the Israeli lobby and other lobbies, but I think the Big Wireless lobby is often sort of overlooked.

People don't realize how much money they invest and donate to media companies like The Washington Post, like The New York Times, and others.

It's nonsense

It's like,

what? You noticed that.

Yeah, that caught my ear, too.

So, yeah, I'm definitely going to get into outlining some more of what Paolo Zampolli said.

But like you mentioned, and as I do cover in the article, I kind of – I think I give three different points of why Melania's story of – As she said in the press conference that we're discussing, I had nothing to do with Trump.

I never had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.

I wasn't friends with Ghislaine Maxwell.

no sorry sorry you're under a microscope at that time that's why yeah

Mm

... promoting that in, uh, schools and, and she's got different, you know, programs that she's, she's involved in, but she hasn't really been involved in the limelight, and she's definitely never spoke about her, uh, connections with Ghislaine Maxwell or Jeffrey Epstein.

And so the press conference just kinda came outta nowhere.

And I remember when it happened, which was April 9th, I was looking into how it was being interpreted, of course, in our alternative media space and in the mainstream s- mainstream world, and pretty much everybody was asking this question.

Um, but I did notice that on Twitter there was this conversation about Amanda Ungaro, who I actually wasn't previously aware of, but she's been reported on elsewhere.

Uh, Whitney's reported on her, Whitney Webb, and others have in terms of her being one of the many models that were associated with Jeffrey Epstein and his French connection, uh, modeling agent, abuser, J- Jean-Luc Brunel.

Uh, that this model, Amanda Ungaro, who first came to the US on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, being brought by Jean-Luc Brunel, and she tells a whole story about them trying to give her drugs to transport, and, or at least what she suspected were drugs, and she, she turned it down.

Right

They literally cheered impeachment hearings back to back.

I saw a few awkward things like that.

I was in the room actually for that one.

And And it's interesting because I've noticed a few of the speakers, including that gentleman there who's the head of CPEC, having to kind of like pump up the crowd.

And again, maybe it's because there's less people there than they typically expect.

Like, come on, I can't hear you.

Like, make some noise.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, how was your mindset?

I thought like, so like I said, in the beginning, because I was still kind of in my kind of hustle mentality, which I've always had, and which is interesting now, because as an anarchist, as an agorist, I recognize like, oh, I've always had this entrepreneurship interest inside of me to, you know, do business and create business and not, you know, not deal with government, all that sort of stuff.

But the way I found it when I was younger is like, okay, dealing drugs, like, and so I was introduced and sort of mentored, you could say, in a way by a lot of older felons who were career creators.

who I who kind of took me under their wing and almost in sort of a father-son type way that because that relationship wasn't there I was always looking for something you know and so I very much got into like a hustle mentality of like I loved it wasn't even about the drugs and it wasn't even about making a lot of money necessarily I mean I never was making hundreds of thousands of dollars but I just enjoyed the atmosphere I enjoyed the business side of it I you know so even after I did break through my addiction, which was a struggle in itself.

And I'd love to share with you about that.

I still, like I said, continue to sell drugs.

And so even when I wasn't touching them anymore, I just realized it took me a little while to realize, oh, I'm still hooked on the lifestyle.

What was that relationship like? Did he was he able to let were you able to let go of the way the feelings you had and how did that change when he when he passed away?