Yeah

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in myself that I had lost or that I was grieving.

And so I really had to, you know, reflect inwards and think about, like, why that happened, how that happened, um, how you, how I want to exist in the world, how I wanna, um, treat other people and how I want other people to treat me.

So it really became about living.

It really was the, it really was I want to make things that ask people to think about their actions and how they treat an other.

And so, um, in that sort of self-death, you know, I, I realized, "Okay, let's, let's get rid of the figure.

Mm-hmm