And let's

do the summit.

It's great.

Where, um, it's really exciting to get product valid, validality.

Validation.

Validation.

Yeah.

Yeah, so builders would understand.

Mm-hmm.

So I went in there, day one, uh, do you know, I'd met all the, all the lads, we call them, and, [laughs] there was, um...

I suppose I was known to have a bit of a temper, yeah.

I was known to have a temper, but it was more of, um, fuck, what would you call it? I'd say I'm more of an alter ego.

Listen, I was d- I was soft really, but I had to pretend to be something because I didn't know who I was.

I didn't know what I was really back then, and it's easier to create someone different who has this persona of being a little bit of a fighter, a little bit of, bit of a, a boy that's out there.

And, um, unfortunately this then carried into this school, and somebody said something to me, and I turned around and I hit him.

Mm.