You don't when you're 15.

It was an understanding.

It was an alternative community.

You know, we were the oddballs on the street going back to childhood.

Then in our teens, we met Gav.

And I mean, he was certainly not like remotely like anybody else on the street.

And I guess we were a community of artists, if we go back far enough, that didn't know we

Googie was responsible for coming up with a lot of the names, including Paul Hewson's.