And was it during that period that you utilized the baby recording technique?

Yes, because when I did it, I was with Jeff at that time.

So it was probably like the year, maybe the year that I started working with Jeff.

there were some elk hunters that had a sighting in the blues and I took, so, and I had a young, a young kid at home.

So I did a loop tape of my son crying on a cassette and made this tape.

And I thought we did a pretty good job on it.

You know, it played great.

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