No way.

So I would swim out in those mid-'80s with still cameras, and I got to meet a lot of the boys.

Because back then, there was no photographers.

I mean, you guys know that in our era, there was, like, a couple photographers.

It was no- Yeah ... than what we have today.

So anyone with a camera was like, "Oh, bro, what's up? You get a couple shots?" So it worked out really well for me, being, you know, a haole boy, blonde hair, blue eyes, uh, born and raised in Oahu, to kinda meet all the boys, uh, right in the- Yeah ...

in the mid-'80s.

Okay