So how did you do it?

You mean how we came to the 687 gram frame? Yeah.

I think that's probably everything has to do with maybe we elaborate on flow state design a little bit later during this discussion.

But we developed a pretty nice process, I would say, starting with ASOS 1 over Tarmac SL8, ASOS 2.

We just keep on evolving this process.

And we have a pretty strong simulation team.

Basically for Tarmac SL9, what they can do is that they have a ply-by-ply analysis and FEA combined basically in a simulation environment.

So how do you narrow the head tube of the SL8 with internal cables without having to go to a bayonet or some other novel solution?