And Denise, when you think about that, the visionary integrator dynamic, you know oftentimes especially when it takes a little bit of time for the visionary to let go of the vine being kind of controlling everything how has that transition been in terms of delegation michael's ability to let go and then for you to really run that operation and get it really tight

yeah i think like michael said when you look at when you take the exam it was clear clear as day and Michael, there were several things Michael had held onto for a long time.

And finally I asked for them and he was like, you'd really want to do that.

And I'm like, absolutely.

And he was like, I was keeping this because I didn't think anyone wanted to do that or have to handle that, that sort of thing.

And I was like, give that to me.

And I think it was really the moment that Michael really realized that that I really like a lot of the things that just drive him crazy.

So where do you need to dig in? Where do you need to look at to get more of what you want from the business?