Yeah.

And I think probably going back to, I don't know if this is a Freud or a Jung, but I remember there, there was a ...

Something I heard someone say one time was, "If you can look at your thoughts like they're animals walking past you in the forest, and you can just look at it and go, 'That's a thought, and that's not really me, you know, I don't have to act on everything.

It'll pass,' then I think you can kind of just relax a little bit and just go-"

Before you go, is there anything that you would like to say to the audience? Is there sort of like one thing you'd like them to take from this conversation?

Yeah.

I'd say the advice I give my kids, and that Jen gives our kids as well, is, uh, and it comes from her grandmother, like, "Do it while you can." And my interpretation of what that means is, if you wanna go and start a business, do it now.

You'll never have less to lose.