So how's that experience been for you? Did you stumble into this world? Was it planned? And how's the journey been so far?

Yeah, it's an interesting question.

As I look back at my career over the past 20 plus years, I would say stumbled upon is probably the right phrase.

When I was at university, I actually studied chemistry with business management.

So up until that point, I was really only studying sciences because I was convinced I was going into medicine.

But one thing, you know, I realized very quickly at degree level, and again, I love sciences up until sort of degree level, is I really didn't want to do sciences after I graduated.

And so I didn't really know what I wanted to do when I got out of university.

And within this entire journey, if there are one or two impactful moments that you can talk about, which would those moments be?