Yeah.

Um, my kids, uh, so they're, they're super creatives.

My wife's creative, I'm creative.

We encourage it to this point, but I have been a presence much longer than I expected to be a present, whether, you know, a presence, and I am just this, this thing, uh, that won't get out of the way, and I'm very conscious of it now, trying to step aside to let the sun on them, let the sun shine on them without being filtered through-

Yep.

Blues, funk, hip-hop, punk, he- heavy metal, hair metal, all these terms were terms that were given w- written by some writers, and, "Oh, they're a hair metal band.

Oh, they're, oh, they're a j-" Jazz was a derogatory term.

Punk was not a term b- the, the bands, the early, the original punk bands, they hated that.

Oh, yeah.

I think most of the '80s stuff doesn't hold up well, and, uh, and but Maiden, man, it just still, it just, it stands the test of time.

But be that as it may, so I said, "I love that Maiden gallop.

If I could write a song with a anthem with that gallop, it'll be a hit.

I could have a big hit." So I'm looking at I Wanna Rock.

I go, "Okay, I want that Maiden gallop." So I'm like, dun, da, da, dun, da, da, dun, da.

And that's, so that's, I'm grooving and I'm, I'm, I'm using, by that time I had a reel-to-reel.

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