does that work for you? Like the administrative tasks that are on you for, you know, running a section in addition to your work? How does what does that look like?

So it's a dual role, but you know, I want to be involved in cases.

So I still, I don't take depositions very much anymore, but I do participate in hearings and do stuff like that.

But I have someone who helps me do the administration.

First, we have something called a section head assistant.

So I'm a section head.

So I have an assistant and her name is Michelle Fulmer.

What about do you, are you able, so at 64, are you able to slow down a little bit? Do you and your wife, do you travel?