All right, so I would love for you to tell us a little bit about who you are on top of what I just described, and how did you fall upon this journey of mindset and just being this bright, shining light?

It's such a good question.

It-- I've talked about it a number of times, because it started on a New York City subway platform when I was burnt out.

I think we all can understand that, being parents and being working.

And I was a number one pharma sales rep, and I was pushing myself, because I wanted to do the best I could for myself, for the company, for the doctors that I called on, and I just ran myself ragged.

I didn't take care of myself.

I'm sure people can really relate to not putting yourself first, not self-care, not having balance and boundaries.

Yeah

What can I do? What would be their first thing?

Well, one of the first things we can all do is be kind to ourselves, not hate.

keep saying these negative things, these hurtful things to ourselves.

We are worthy.

We are enough.

You hear this all the time, but it's one thing to hear it.

It's another thing to believe it.

And how, how can you persuade them perhaps to, to, you know, be open, more open-minded about the possibilities that they could actually make a change and have their, have a day that doesn't suck instead of looking for it to suck.