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Deborah Levy

Deborah Levy

Novelist and playwright

Jul 7, 2026

20:44
I've got a clue, Nick.
20:45
I don't know.
20:45
They'd have to.
20:46
blatantly I don't know if Cardi told you I've got a new romance and it was one of his trips away he took us to Blackpool he took us to Blackpool week holiday and I met one of the other guys there the other visually impaired that I'd never met before and he was I think he was flirting with me quite badly but I didn't think I didn't notice it until he he took me to his room and then i realized he liked me but before then he asked me to dance he bought me a drink but i still didn't pick up on it i'm 59 years old i didn't think anybody was going to be flirting with me i'm very i'm
21:41
They'd have to,
21:42
blatantly.
21:43
I don't know if Cardi told you, I've got a new romance, and it was one of his trips away, which is at the Blackpool, a week holiday, and I met one of the other guys there, the other visually impaired, that I'd never met before, and he was, I think he was flirting with me quite badly, but I didn't think, I didn't notice it until he'd He took me to his room, and then I realized he liked me.
22:04
But before then, he asked me to dance, he bought me a drink, but I still didn't pick up on it.
10:47
Why don't you give us a short reading now, Deborah? This is your narrator after failing to find the grave of Gertrude Stein in Père Lachaise Cemetery, deciding to cut her losses and eat her lunch.
10:59
Yes.
11:00
And, um, not only is she at Père Lachaise Cemetery, but it's raining, of course.
11:07
"I unwrapped the oozing baguette and devoured it there and then amongst the dead.
11:14
The living have appetites, desires, to drive us mad, to make us joyful, to make us cry, to lead us up the wrong path and down the right path.
11:28
The dead have done all that.
11:31
The dead, who can no longer feel the rain, had spent a lifetime creating themselves.
14:02
Mm.
11:58
Can you talk about that painting and seeing oneself through the eyes of someone else and accepting an image of yourself through the eyes of someone else?
12:07
Mm, absolutely.
12:08
I mean, interestingly-There is now a portrait of me in the National Portrait Gallery, and that is painted by Paul Hieber Percy.
12:20
And it's very interesting to look at that because it, it's not at all representational, but it feels very close to me.
12:30
So I understand how Gertrude felt about that painting.
12:36
She sat for Picasso about 80 times.
12:41
She's very regal in that painting.

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29:29
A- at a time when queer relationships weren't as acceptable as they are now, obviously, she, she could take on a role that women couldn't before.

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