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Debbie Missud

Jun 22, 2026

19:28
Like, I had all my basic needs taken care of," but there's other things, right? [laughs]
19:34
You're hitting something that I, I talk about a lot, and it's the difference between wants and needs.
19:40
And a lot of the times, so something that we'll identify as this, again, little T trauma, is when you do not get emotional attunement, but because you had money or your family was able to provide that support and give you the things that you wanted, you learned that that was, I guess, what you were supposed to-- Th- th- that that was all you needed, when in reality, what you actually needed was emotional attunement.
20:11
And so you don't need to have grown up in a, what we would normalize-- or sorry, normally talk about as a standard chaotic household.
20:19
It can be anything from you maybe had a parent who was maybe a little emotionally immature in that their moods were a little bit more volatile, but it doesn't mean that it had to be explosive in your household.
20:29
It could be anything from you were parentified, meaning that your parents expected you to take on early adult roles.
20:37
It could be anything from pressure being put on you to perform and having your worth tied to your achievement.

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35:12
Okay, if somebody's listening and they're like, "I, I feel like I-- like some of this has resonated," or like, "This has been helpful," but they're like, "I really want to sort of have more of this understanding and like understand my contributors and like why I'm struggling," how could you sort of maybe encourage them or like point them in a certain direction without people getting stuck in that overanalyzing and being in their heads and like just wanting to intellectualize it all?

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