So let's just go back to, so what was the story in terms of Western astrology? So who was using it sort of back in the day?

Initially, we're talking really about Egypt and ancient China.

I mean, Egypt needed to know when the Nile was going to flood, basically.

So they started to keep records of the lunar cycles because they needed to know when the new moons and the full moons were here.

when the Nile was going to flood so they would know when was the best time to plant crops.

And that's like really amazing knowledge because in a way symbolically we still use this idea of the lunar astrology for symbolically planting crops, in other words setting our intentions in terms of manifesting.

But in those days it was very physical.

So what