mean?

So Sarah Jessica Parker plays this woman, Frances, and she's married, but she's having this affair.

She participates in her divorce, and it kind of blows up.

There's some really big names in this show, and I kind of love when they do that.

Just give us one or two people that we know from several things, and then build the rest of the characters.

I have... issues and I love to build relationships with the people that I am watching in a show.

I need to feel attached, you guys.

She's, you know, looking, pulling her skin back, seeing how she's

[laughs]

And she's like, "What the..." You know what I mean? So the friend accidentally shoots the husband, and that's where chaos ensues in this episode.

And so from that moment, I was kinda hooked because for me, I believe it shared the reality of how challenging it can be in partnership.

And, like, don't get me wrong, I believe in companionship and partnership.

And I know we opened up this episode talking about that and some of those good memories.

I'm not sure that I have ever experienced, like, a real, loving, healthy relationship, so I don't know that I know how to do that.

I don't know that I've ever had, like, my greatest love.

Who, yeah, we know that.

Sarah Jessica

Parker.

She's one of the main characters.

I am the girl who grew up on Sex and the City, loved her, loved the show, loved these women.

You know what I mean? I do struggle with seeing Sarah Jessica Parker in different shows and movies and not just seeing Carrie Bradshaw.

Right.

You know what I mean? So Sarah Jessica Parker plays this woman, Frances, and she's married, but she's having this affair.

just getting

aptly named.

I know.

All right.

I'm not so sure it would be something that I would have jumped on, but I am always looking for suggestions of good shows.

And I'll tell you what, I really liked it.

I love Sarah Jessica Parker.

She's one of the main characters.

She's, you know, looking, pulling her skin back, seeing how she's just getting

Yeah.

So I just like off the bat related to her and her character.

And she's been married to this man who's obviously, you know, he's older, he's gained a little weight.

The sex isn't as hot.

You know what I mean? The things that happen in marriage, in long-term marriages and stuff like that.

And then they go to their friend's house for dinner, and it's just straight chaos.

It's her birthday.

Who, yeah, we know that.

of feeling every

last wave of grief, good and bad and sad and angry and all of the things.

There were times, you know, where I just needed to just check out.

And I love a good binge session.

I'm actually kid free this weekend.

So I'm so stoked that we're doing this because I am still finding my footing as a single mom.

You know what I mean? And I use the word single very clearly.

She's one

Aptly named.

I know.

All right.

I'm not so sure it would be something that I would have jumped on, but I am always looking for suggestions of good shows.

And I'll tell you what, I really liked it.

I love Sarah Jessica Parker.

She's one of the main characters.

She's, you know, looking, pulling her skin back, seeing how she's just getting

Any comments?

I am struggling so bad right now with this.

This hits super close to home for me.

When I saw it last night, I had really mixed feelings because there's a part of me that is like, leave this girl alone.

She is clearly struggling.

She's clearly struggling.

And I understand I've had to do a lot of work through this for myself, I understand there is the piece where we choose to go on television, which means that our lives are now public, right? And on the most basic level, court is public.

So.

want you to talk about about how you're feeling.

Man, I have all sorts of things when I am scrolling this article.

I have lots of things coming up for me.

I know when something this terrible happened to me.

Man, it was so hard to live out the darkest moments of my life in the press, where something should have been so private for me, for my ex-husband, and my children.

To live out every last court filing, everything that happened in my life during that period of time, I mean, was... really fucking sick.

I was like really, really sick of it.

I see why that's happening.

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I think I've learned to show up in certain ways and it's so hard.

And I know you both understand this having been on television and, you know, not to take it back to Bryce, but he said, when I was listening to the conversation between you and Bryce and I was there, Mercedes, he made the comment of like, you guys are not going to know each other beforehand because you don't want to preconceive notion.

And I feel that for myself.

I have a really hard time going to parties or making new friends or dating in general, because if they know who I am or they have Googled me, that is a turnoff because then they have a preconceived notion of who they think that I am.

In my experience, I have found that people don't truly want to get to know me.

They want to get to know that person that they saw on TV.

I don't

To interpretation, but

he's a great guy.

He's a great guy.

It does live rent-free in my head though, because I've always thought that and I've never gotten that answer from him.

We stayed friends for a long time, but it was like, I don't know, man, you have 25 to 30 women there and you couldn't pick anyone.

You don't want to marry them, but you didn't see anything in anyone that you might want to go on a second date in real life like you didn't want anyone I don't know why that's always but obviously thankfully he did not and then he wanted

That for me was, I want some guy to have that look in his eyes to me.

You know, some people, I think it's just in their destiny to go on the show and to meet their person and live happily ever after.

Do you feel like you want to date someone or be with somebody that already has kids? I think that that would be

beneficial.

It's not a deal breaker for me.

And just like I've explained on the podcast over and over again, it's not a deal breaker for me.

My kids don't need a stepdaddy.

They have a dad that they love very much.

If I end up with someone, I hope that they're really great and they become a really good friend to my kids.

Well, we wouldn't have thought it, you know?

Does she have that ability to relate to them to where they're like, I want to watch her find love every week?

Here's the thing.

I believe that there are people who have watched the show from season one.

They don't care what happens.

They can't stop watching it.

It's their thing.

They watch it with a group of people or they watch it with their daughters or, you know, for whatever reason they're watching the show and they're never going to stop.

Okay, let's go back to the fact that Becca Kufrin and Rachel Lindsay, who have distanced themselves from the franchise, were both there, which makes me think, like, why? What was it about this?

I mean, I've been around, but I've been married, you know, for a long time too.

Yeah.

I don't know, Kathy.

I do believe that you should give the dating apps a shot.

I believe that you are putting yourself out there.

I also, as cuckoo as the sounds, like let everybody call it what it is.

Like I, I believe we're all destined for a path and it may just not be in your path right now.

You're saying that's your generation?

So let's dive back in.

I continue to talk about my marriage because it's the freshest on my mind.

And it was my longest relationship that I've ever been in.

And there were lots of things, right? We were on the cycle, that toxic cycle.

And just, we just, towards the end, we just couldn't get off.

We just could not hop off the cycle.

There was no, and, and there, I, Personally, I could not get to a place anymore of being able to change the way I said something or to be soft anymore, to be soft anymore.

at

So please fill us all in.

I'm just going to stop you then because I don't think that it's healthy for so much time to go by before you and I dissect.

I think we need to do this a little bit quicker next time because now I've had several days to kind of stew in my mind how you second guess things.

You think, oh, it was like this or it ended like that.

So I've had some time to to gather my thoughts and think about it.

So there's all right.

It's interesting to me that you said I had a good mindset.

It's a big deal.

Is this more or less ideal than just the two of you going out for the first time alone?

To me, this is more ideal.

I really appreciate non-traditional dating.

I had some friends who were like, oh my gosh, you're going to a concert.

You're not going to be able to talk and get to know each other.

But for me, that feels almost like a relief because what if the conversation does suck? You know what I mean? We'd just be like, so how about Nick? I'm like, Joe, you know? Yeah.

But it's also it's also pretty exciting because if it is like someone can show up in a scenario like this, you know, and I get it.

Have you taken in any of these comments? Does it add a level of pressure now knowing that there's people listening excited about this? Has anybody given you any insights? Kind of talk about to us the world of getting this show released, having the response, and how it's prepared you for this moment.