W- we kind of breezed past the, the initiative of, of turning the tour into a 501[c][6] and the tax advantages that were gained of that, and how you were able to use that also to sell to sponsors and, and how certain expenditures that they had would fall under, potentially under a different category, uh, because of the way the tour was organized.

Well, that was, uh, that, that goes back to my pre-PGA Tour days.

Uh, I was in the insurance business, uh, uh, mostly in corporate business of, of, uh, corporate, uh, insurance and pension funds and things like that.

Uh, when I became commissioner, I went to New York, uh, actually between the 1st of January, when I was, uh, going to be appointed commissioner, but I wasn't, I was just, uh, hired by the tour.

I didn't become commissioner for 60 days when Joe Dey retired.

But in that 60 days, I lived in Washington, and I commuted to New York every, every week.

I went up on Tuesday and back on Thursday night.

Which ends up being a key part of, of what unfolds next.