But, you know, we still have not a trampoline and...

yeah yeah yeah yeah so not a trampoline was actually so i what i remember of that was just like rob cantor was like okay i'm gonna take a little more of a uh hollywood approach to making things because you know i live in hollywood now so let's let's do the hollywood thing and he started doing all these small projects i guess with not a lot of money and uh I just remember following all that as it was coming out.

All I Need Is You was a wonderful old bike.

I'm Gonna Win.

I'm just trying to think of all the different songs that he was doing.

And then like a year after he released the album, he did the Shia LaBeouf thing.

And I was like, that was already a huge thing on Tumblr.

this true?

Yeah.

But, yeah, they came around 2009.

I think that's when they were with Atlantic.

And they're kind of in there waiting to release a record, but not quite phase.

Which, by the way, that whole time between Marvin's to Good and Evil, that was an absolute crawl.

Like, there were fans that had petitions going that were just like, release the second album or get Atlantic off the contract so we can release the second album.

Oh, my God.

I proudly display that