Dawn, is that, is that been your experience too?

Yeah.

It is, um...

I, I completely agree.

And I think for me, the other bit that feels really important is we often think about people in terms of their professional role, but actually that whole person might not have just gone through lots of other change at work.

They've got, you know, the past changes still, kind of, resonating in their mind, whether they were good experiences or bad.

They might also be having lots of change in their home life, things going on at home that will massively be impacting their own emotional, um, and energetic reserves and, and just the change in the wider world.

So have you got any advice to people or individuals about how to manage that well?