Do you think that Democrats can take back this narrative from Republicans about being the party of family values, and how do you think we could do that?

Absolutely.

I mean, I think it's by living our values and living by example.

When I think about Wes and I, our family, our children are the most important people to us.

And we serve from that standpoint, understanding that from an empathetic standpoint, what families are going through.

And so when we think about and when Wes governs, he's thinking about the love of a family.

I always say to people, don't elect people who don't love you.

So black business to you while she's cold west to you.

So I'm curious, as you started to figure out how to work together, was that easeful or did you have to negotiate how some of this was gonna go?

Yeah, you know, I think we were always equally yoked in what we cared about.

And I think that, you know, my husband is the most amazing man that I know.

And he is such a great leader.

So anything that has happened in this relationship started with him, the idea.

He's such a visionary person.

And I sort of laugh sometimes because he's not a person who could just sit down and not be doing anything.

I thought you were just going to get

Mm-hmm.

I didn't fall in love with someone that needed to be fixed, someone who needed, um, me to be his mother.

He had all those things.

And what I found in Wes was that we were equally yoked.

We had the same value system, and it wasn't that hard.

Mm-hmm.

I didn't have to force him to love me, and he didn't have to force me to love him.

And I think sometimes we have to realize that, you know, you find love...