Yeah.

They keep them from you, right? So, um, but then finally, like after scrolling through three years of direct messages, I found her and I was like, "Ah, it's Ash." [laughs] And, um, Ash had reached out to me two years before and she had, she, as a young upcoming woman in the music industry, as a guitar player, as a Christian, she just reached out saying, you know, "Hi, do you have any advice for someone who's coming up in the music industry?" You know, she said that she'd been listening to Fireflight.

And, um, and so I was like, I wonder if she's still playing.

[laughs] And so sure enough, I went to her and I could tell that she was active, so I was like, "Hey, uh, good to talk to you again.

I was just wondering, like, how's it going? Are you still, are you touring? What are you, what are you up to?" I thought, somebody snatched her up, I don't know.

Maybe she's playing for Lady Gaga now, I don't know.

Um, but she was free.

But where did that first start for you?

You want to share a little bit about the inspiration on that song?

Yeah, I think that song has kind of like evolved for me personally, because I've realized through the last, like, I don't know, I guess three or four years that I, you know, the song, it was about calling out to God and trying to shift away.

We're always trying to create things inside of our lives that help us like, deal with our anxiety and our fear.

And we use these things to try to escape and try to gain control of things we can't, we just feel like we can't understand, like life is out of control.

And we try to fill those empty places with stuff that makes us feel better, you know? And so, so many people, we turn to drugs and alcohol.

For me, I turn to people pleasing.

I have codependency addiction.

Yeah,