Um, how, how did we get to now? Yeah.

So I'll tell you another pivotal thing here that, you know, I read the book and new ideas, man, control and how you finance everything in life.

What are you talking about? Cash and credit.

And what are you talking about? The different ways to buy a car with a CD, with a life insurance policy.

What are you talking about, man? Like, you know, by the way, people dismiss it like the way to use life insurance, the way we're able to do it in the United States and Canada is pretty unique, right? The fact that life insurance itself is a product of free market in American culture is fascinating to me.

We dismiss this.

We think that everyone can do this.

When did you move to Arizona? Yeah, I was