if you want to break take us back to that trade because I think you mentioned was supposed to go bankrupt or something and how you got in that trade and how Martin Shkreli basically squeezed you out of it like did Martin Shkreli know that there was a lot of shorts in it and he wanted to squeeze them like I want to get your thoughts on all that

Yeah, I can't say for sure, but I think he knew that there were a lot of shorts in it.

You know, he's a very smart guy.

He knows about stocks, ran a hedge fund, and...

I think he was buying it and also loaning out the shares at IB.

And you could do that.

At IB, you could loan out your shares.

And I wanted to ask you, like, what made you want to create it? And why did you call it Trader Pods? Were you aware? And were you like hyper aware, like the pod is like what we need as traders? Like this is what traders need? I just wanted to ask about that.

Talk a little bit about what and how you navigate that when those, you know, kind of challenges show up.

Yeah, so usually the escalation sequence, I guess you could call it, usually it just starts off with a small frustration or annoyance.

You're in something, and something small does some kind of weird... weird move and you get out and you lose money and then now it's looking good again and you get back in and then you get stopped at again and you lose more money and it starts off, you know, just kind of being a frustrating, annoying trade.

And then, And then maybe you keep trying it, try to make the money back.

And then for me, the kind of next phase is kind of getting that revenge trade starts coming in, some anger.

Oh, I got this stock.

I'm going to be green on this thing, you know? Yeah.

And when you are able to notice that that is beginning, what is it that you do so that you don't get pulled down into that, you know, kind of riptide?