This all comes amid ongoing conversations about how AI could spell the end of humanity.

It could go a number of different ways, like, what if, for example, all of our critical infrastructure, our water, our electricity, the internet, was, like, effectively broken or switched off? You could see that then leading to, like, a zombie apocalypse type vibe where, like, we have no power or water and everyone's sort of, like, fighting each other.

Biological weapons, nuclear weapons.

AI can help surface some of the most dangerous, you know, recipes or ingredients for disaster, that if that falls into the wrong hands, that could go pretty bad.

Imagine if it was a bad actor, a state that we're either at war with or, like, is against us, deliberately weaponizing this, telling it to hack the Australian government in his, its own interests.

You could get creative.

There's some other ways humanity could end, but, like, [laughs] that's the immediate ones.

[gentle music] Some people from within the big AI companies, known as AI labs, have been calling for a slowdown, saying they're getting too powerful, and there's been a lot of chat about if this is real.

And that was

all from the little community of Bluff.

So that's a really nice bit of the history of the success on the hill, the foundation built by those first volunteers.

They did citizen science.

I mean, that's what they were doing.

So one of the things that we decided when we were applying to the Jobs for Nature Fund, obviously that was always going to be a temporary boost to conservation.

And we recognised that if we just went out and bought loads and loads of cheap manual traps, It would leave us a problem when that funding ended because we would never have enough volunteers to run manual traps across the whole hill.

What an incredible team you have down there on the hill.

So how bad is this?

Um, it's bad.

[laughs] I was in San Francisco last week.

I traveled with a company called Salesforce, and they held a c- uh, a conference called Dreamforce, which has about fifty thousand people all talking about AI.

Um, and Sam Altman was there on stage.

He called the Hugging Face incident, he called it terrifying and the worst accident that he'd seen.

He didn't mention Australia, even though he would have known by then that this incident had happened.

Well, this is what I wanted to ask you, like what is your opinion on how worrying this is? Obviously, you write a lot in this space and, you know, we saw that Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles called it, quote, "relatively minor," but it feels scarier than that, right? Given what's happened in other countries, uh, at or in other places with AI break-ins and hacks and, and what it could possibly lead to.