
David Stern
CEO of Kindbody, fertility benefits company; 30+ years in women's health and fertility industry
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Jul 29, 2026
Why Self-Insured Employers Care About IVF Outcomes
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David WilliamsHOST
So I know that employers are interested in outcomes and cost transparency, and those are general sort of terms, but what does it mean in your space? You started off, I think, with some talking about like implementation rate, and I'm sure there's a number of other key metrics, but how are you being held accountable these days?

David SternGUEST
We have service level agreements and we put into our contracts a certain amount of, for example, you use the example of multiple births.

David SternGUEST
Just to give you a couple of figures, a triplet in the United States is about $577,000.
Making Fertility Benefits An Employer Priority w/ David Stern, CEO, Kindbody
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David WilliamsHOST
And I'm wondering what's being done today with AI in your space and then where it may be heading.

David SternGUEST
And what we're looking at and exploring right now is how do we take manual busy work off of people's hands and make them more efficient? So I'll give you a couple examples in how we're using AI and we're doing pilots right now because we think that this will save time.

David SternGUEST
We're not looking at it as a way to replace people, but we're looking at it as a way to reduce busy work.

David SternGUEST
And one example that comes to mind is when someone comes into a fertility clinic They have a stack of medical charts because they've been pursuing a family.
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David WilliamsHOST
What does access mean in fertility care, and what does it mean to expand access?