Could you just draw the link between the two?

Sure.

Okay.

Yeah, so as you say, uh, Bob has come around through, uh, but through a couple of iterations.

We originally had a product that was actually called, uh, Watsonx Code Assistant, which was particularly designed for the package called IBM i. IBM i is, is a kind of a group, a fif- of 50-plus different, uh, elements of software packages brought together to run industries, uh, and solutions for industries all over the world.

They run the, uh, all sorts of different computing systems for companies all over, but they have been around for 30-plus years.

And so where we are is that there's some of this code has been around for a very long time, and the people that wrote it may have now moved on or retired, and so some of it can be a little bit on the impenetrable side.

[laughs]

I mean, what kind of support do I then get? Is it from IBM or through a partner to ensure that my people can understand the new ways of working?

Yes, yes, very fair.

Absolutely.

Yeah, because as you say, IBM i with this kind of legacy around, there can be a perception, maybe a new CIO comes in and says, well, dear, that looks a little bit like it's got this green wording on a black screen.

Whoa, I don't like that anymore.

I must wholesale change it.

I must get off the whole thing and do it all new, maybe in a cloud, for example.

But how can they access it if they're interested?