What's the biggest misconception you've come upon with being a public defender?

Oh, man.

So many.

Look, this is not a prestigious job.

This is a job that usually has as little cultural cachet and political cachet as you could think of.

And that comes from all sides.

I think sometimes your clients are mistrustful of you, and I don't blame them because, one, and this is something that I think of all the time, but if I was in their shoes...

Can you share a case that maybe changed your perspective on how justice is in our country or in Texas?