David Schwartz
American attorney
31
APPEARANCES
9
PODCASTS
Sep 3, 2026
David SchwartzGUEST
But we've seen it with stars, haven't we? Sam Mitchell and Luke Hodge leaving, and does Gunston become a...
David SchwartzGUEST
So Gunston started at Adelaide, but he's now considered a Hawke, but he went to Brisbane, so I think sometimes opportunity is the only way that... and the only reason why players lead, so...
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David SchwartzGUEST
So a, a key- uh, a keeper and his first mate, first slip, uh, sitting beside him, uh, when he was playing, uh, 38 catches i- uh, behind when the first slip wasn't playing nine catches.
David SchwartzGUEST
And it was all because he was flicking his fingers at the same time as the ball was passing the bat, and there was many catches that were caught, and it was called clicky ponting.
David SchwartzGUEST
Well, yeah, so I'll, I'll use an example that is actually not business related because I think it's very relatable to what we do.
David SchwartzGUEST
So I'm a big surfer and I have like a group of buddies, uh, that I've grown up with that we all go surf, you know, before the sun rises several days a week.
David SchwartzGUEST
I there's all these forecasting apps out there that do all these amazing things.
David SchwartzGUEST
And I said, you know, they're great, but they don't really tell me and my friends like we really liked this day at this time because the swell and direction and all these things that you have to analyze as a surfer perfectly hit this one spot that is a secret spot or isn't like a, you know, a well-known spot.
David SchwartzGUEST
So I said, you know, I'm going to build a tool that basically lets me and my friends capture this information.
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Rich FreemanHOST
So I guess the question is, is that what you're seeing as well right now? And do you think that might change at some point in the future?
David SchwartzGUEST
I have two of all – my two all-time favourite movies and they're relatively new.
David SchwartzGUEST
And it- it's just normalized what sport is supposed to be, that the bookmakers decide who the favorite is and, and what, um, you know, specialty bet that they can place on it.
David SchwartzGUEST
So I, I think the reforms were, were well-intentioned, but they just don't go far enough, and it took them three years, 1,050 days, to actually act on it.
David SchwartzGUEST
I think it's about our kids, and some of the, some of the things they've put in place are just ridiculous.
David SchwartzGUEST
I said, "Well, why not? Yeah, have him send it to you, and, you know, take a look at it." I, I read French, and, you know, I'm being just curious.
David SchwartzGUEST
And so it was sent to my, my friend, who looked at it and said, "Whatever this is, it's in terrible condition, and I don't even wanna send it to you.
7:29
He says the manuscript is a daily reminder of the impact a terrible disease and its life-saving vaccine have had on humanity.
David SchwartzGUEST
And actually, my dentist, Ray Montag, his daughter is our greatest walker, Jemima.
David SchwartzGUEST
I think we are witnessing something at the moment that could cost this sport and people billions of dollars.
Tom ElliottHOST
So if it falls apart, does that mean all those golfers that went over to the dark side have to go back to the PGA and say, please, please, can we play with you again?
David SchwartzGUEST
Yeah, hand in, they'll be on, what do they say? They'll be on, Bended knee.
Tom ElliottHOST
But, of course, people do gamble, and a minority of people have a real problem with it, don't they?
David SchwartzGUEST
And I think trying to protect... gamblers or punters from themselves is part of the recovery process for a lot of those that get caught up in it.
David SchwartzGUEST
And you're right, only 4% of Australians are problem gamblers, but we are the biggest turnover of per capita in the world.
David SchwartzGUEST
The problem we have is that operators are given too much latitude and The authorities are toothless in the way that they are, you know, helping those vulnerable people that admit they've got a problem and then are dealing with, you know, the ramifications.
Tom ElliottHOST
So, you know, if our sports leagues need gambling and our state governments need gambling, are we really able to stop it or wind it back dramatically?
1:05
Dr. Schwartz helped develop a vaccine for the Zaire strain about a decade ago.
David SchwartzGUEST
Our standard diagnostic reagents and vaccines, and we also have an injectable antibody that we use for treatment, they're not very efficacious against this new strain.
David SchwartzGUEST
So they've got some vaccines and some antibodies out there that they've just begun testing.
David SchwartzGUEST
But this epidemic, this outbreak is only, you know, very recent, and so we won't know anything
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TimAUDIENCE
That is big.
David SchwartzGUEST
Like, if he wins this World Cup and he wins the Golden Boot, uh, he kicks a couple of goals, he goes down in norma- in, immortality as probably the greatest we've ever seen.
David SchwartzGUEST
And I think Tiger Woods coming back and winning the Masters was just unbelievable.
David SchwartzGUEST
A- and I know it probably wasn't the end of it, but it was the, it was the culmination of a lot of recovery, a lot of adversity.
David SchwartzGUEST
Like, if he wins this World Cup and he wins the Golden Boot, uh, he kicks a couple of goals, he goes down in norm- i- immortality as probably the greatest we've ever seen.
David SchwartzGUEST
A- and I know it probably wasn't the end of it, but it was the, it was the culmination of a lot of recovery, a lot of adversity, made some big blunders.
David SchwartzGUEST
Yeah, that's – and I think – look, I think if you're the fastest man in the world as well, I think if you win the 100-metre sprint at the Olympic Games, you are the – Like that is as good as it gets.
David SchwartzGUEST
Fast-forward to the '90s, now you have casinos at racetracks, 2000s, more land-based casinos in cities all around the country.
David SchwartzGUEST
Then what happened is you have the proliferation of tribal casinos in Southern California.
Ailsa ChangHOST
I asked David Schwartz, who also met us here, why does Vegas continue to thrive, even as casinos have been popping up all over the country?
David SchwartzGUEST
What Vegas did differently was they invested a lot of money in buildings, things like, uh, the Venetian, like Mirage, like Sphere, sports teams coming here now, Allegiant Stadium, T-Mobile Arena.
David SchwartzGUEST
All that stuff gives people a reason to come to Vegas instead of going to a casino closer to where they live.
Tom ElliottHOST
And so as a result, how you handle yourself when you lose is arguably more important than how you conduct yourself when you win.
David SchwartzGUEST
I would say the biggest concern is waiting too long and being late to the game.
David SchwartzGUEST
And so if you place a bet on a solution and you start implementing it, you get an understanding of this works well for our business.
Marvin BeeHOST
Uh, but what else in terms of, I guess, like other integrations, other features that people that maybe haven't looked at P in a while, um, may say, hey, take a look at us again.
David SchwartzGUEST
So if Jackson's playing well, well, you know that, uh, they're gonna go very close to winning.
David SchwartzGUEST
So they've just got, you know, they've got 22 good players that, that, uh, can all do the job.
Sam EdmundHOST
But what, what do the yips look like out there when you're living them as a player and as a team?
David SchwartzGUEST
The thing I've loved this year is Melbourne had no expectations and they've come out there in the top four.
David SchwartzGUEST
And then the little fellow who we all thought was getting paid too much in cosy picket is probably now undervalued.
Tom ElliottHOST
Like this holiday, I'm just going to disappear for six months and you can't say anything, but I'd still like my paycheck, please.
David SchwartzGUEST
The thing I've loved this year is Melbourne had no expectations and they've come out there in the top four.
David SchwartzGUEST
And then the little fellow who we all thought was getting paid too much in cosy picket is probably now undervalued.
David SchwartzGUEST
But my cross is, Tom, and you speak about redemption, about players who aren't turning up to training regularly.
Tom ElliottHOST
Like this holiday, I'm just going to disappear for six months and you can't say anything, but I'd still like my paycheck, please.
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Heidi MurphyHOST
To that other game of football, the one we more colloquially widely know as football, Majercek and Frampton, did the Tribunal make the right call last night?
David SchwartzGUEST
I think there was enough evidence to suggest that he wasn't deliberately trying to drive him into the ground.
David SchwartzGUEST
And I think the problem we have is the outcome is often the result of what happens in these.
David SchwartzGUEST
If we go back all the way to my childhood, I can remember at a very young age, I had this, uh, consumer-grade twin lens reflex camera that my grandparents gave me.
David SchwartzGUEST
And, you know, of course there was no film in it, but I would, I loved to go around and pretend I was taking pictures of people.
David SchwartzGUEST
So that's probably as far back as it goes, but, you know, moving forward from there, it was always something that I kind of played around with, dabbled with through high school, and then, you know, after kind of getting into college and stuff, decided to take a couple of electives, you know, in photography.
David SchwartzGUEST
Uh, so I was, at that point, I was in retail management and was doing that thing, and that all kind of fell apart on me.
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David SchwartzGUEST
And it got us thinking about players that are probably the club itself or bigger than the club itself.
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