David Rubin
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Jun 25, 2026
Fired and Jailed: Attacks on Free Speech under Trump (BONUS)
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David RubinGUEST
It's just a picture of then-President Trump saying, after a shooting at an Iowa high school named Perry High School, after a shooting there the day after, he said, we're all going to have to get over this, or something to that effect.

David RubinGUEST
with the obvious implication that it meant perhaps we might be being a little hypocritical here, where if we have to get over it the day after a bunch of kids get killed and we're still firing people nine days later because they say something bad about this one
9 MINS LATER

Michael FoxHOST
And this is how many of these firings have actually happened, where we've seen this coordinated campaign against left individuals speaking out in the wake of Kirk's assassination or standing up in defense of Palestine.

David RubinGUEST
And that's one area in First Amendment law that needs to be addressed, is this heckler's veto that happens when politically interested but otherwise diffused groups get really interested and keyed in on something.

David RubinGUEST
And if a teacher says something and their student's parents have a problem with it, maybe that's one thing.

David RubinGUEST
But if some random right-wing or whatever, left-wing podcaster and all their fans don't like it.
Fired & Jailed: Attacks on Free Speech Under Trump
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David RubinGUEST
It's just a picture of then-President Trump saying after a shooting at an Iowa high school named Perry High School, after a shooting there the day after, he said, we're all going to have to get over this or something to that effect.

David RubinGUEST
with the obvious implication that it meant perhaps we might be being a little hypocritical here, where if we have to get over it the day after a bunch of kids get killed and we're still firing people nine days later because they say something bad about this one
9 MINS LATER

Michael FoxHOST
And this is how many of these firings have actually happened, where we've seen this coordinated campaign against left individuals speaking out in the wake of Kirk's assassination or standing up in defense of Palestine.

David RubinGUEST
And that's one area in First Amendment law that, like, needs to be addressed, is this heckler's veto that happens when politically interested but, like, otherwise diffused groups get really interested and keyed in on something.

David RubinGUEST
And, you know, if a teacher says something and their students' parents have a problem with it, like, maybe that's one thing.

David RubinGUEST
But if, like, some random... right-wing or whatever left-wing podcaster and you know all their fans don't like it and then they send a bunch of emails and make a bunch of calls to the school like that is very anti-free speech culture
