What happens to these workers now?

Well, what's happened since Chen's arrest has been remarkable.

We've seen a lot of scam centers throughout Cambodia emptying out.

Streams of people from all over the world, India, Indonesia, China, other parts, queuing out front of their country's embassies trying to get home, saying that they had escaped and wanting to get a ticket back to their place of birth.

But what we've also heard is that a lot of centers are allegedly still in operation.

They've simply quietened down.

According to one of the senior ministers we've spoken to, scam activity is down fifty percent in Cambodia.

You cut off one head, but others are ready to emerge and replace them.

What happens to these workers now?

Well, what's happened since Chen's arrest has been remarkable.

We've seen a lot of scam centres throughout Cambodia emptying out streams of people from all over the world, India, Indonesia, China, other parts, queuing out in front of their country's embassies, trying to get home, saying that they had escaped and wanting to get a ticket back to their place of birth.

But what we've also heard is that a lot of centres are allegedly still in operation.

They've simply quietened down.

According to one of the senior ministers we've spoken to, scam activity is down 50% in Cambodia.

Now, we don't know exactly what that refers to.

You cut off one head, but others are ready to emerge and replace them.

And young Gibran saw an opportunity.

He wanted to be the Raja Lele, the king of catfish in Indonesia.

And so he hustled.

He started speaking with people who had hundreds of fish ponds and were pretty big in the industry.

And he asked them, like, what do you need? What is the issue? And they said, you know, at some point, as you get bigger, your issue becomes feeding the fish.

Because feeding fish requires both regularity as well as precision.

And you need big farms.

How is it that Gibran was able to get away with this and for so long?

And young Gibran saw an opportunity.

He wanted to be the Raja Lele, the king of catfish in Indonesia.

And so he hustled.

He started speaking with people who had hundreds of fish ponds and were pretty big in the industry.

And he asked them, like, what do you need? What is the issue? And they said, you know, at some point, as you get bigger, your issue becomes feeding the fish.

Because feeding fish requires both regularity as well as precision.

And you need big farms.

How is it that Gibran was able to get away with this and for so long?