Before it was cool.

Um, I, I spent sort of junior high and high school really, um, enamored with endurance athletics and, uh, cross-country running, and I ran a few marathons while I was in high school and just really loved it.

And my dad was an engineer and before getting into college and everything else, he was giving me books on biomechanics for, you know, presents and [chuckles] um, and I was really into it.

I was really into understanding w-why the body-- how the body works and, and especially as it relates to running and, uh, and, and exercise and, and athletic performance.

So there was that sort of kernel there when I was growing up.

Um, I went off to college and, um, and in college got really interested in human evolution, um, and sort of my passion became understanding why we are the way we are as a species, and it just...

I, I don't really know why that struck a chord in me, but it was, like, something I, I just couldn't let go of.

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