Um, without going through everything, uh, one by one, l- maybe what are some of the things that m- stood out? What are people taking, for example? What is the most common IPED, uh, that you found being used by, by your respondents?

So I suppose when we look at kind of IPEDs, they're broadly in two category, and that is oral IPEDs and injectables.

So the orals would be tablets that people are taking.

Um, interestingly, the, the ones most common that people are taking is oral peptides, and then the second most common, uh, about 65% of oral IPED users is, uh, Viagra.

Um, so Cialis, um, is what they're taking.

And we...

People might be surprised with that, but I can explain why, why that is probably in a, in a couple of minutes.

Is that a, a, a factor playing into this?

We're really just removing potential things we don't know from the list of contributors.

Yeah, and it's an area where I'm spending a lot of my time thinking at the moment.

A lot of people think once you get a PhD or you do a PhD, then okay, you're an expert in that area or you're an expert.

But a PhD is just a training program.

So A PhD is just training.

It's a training program in order to train you to be an independent researcher.

So the idea is that at the end of PhD, we should be able to design and run research studies well and independently.

and I

Right.

And, uh, which is very much a theme with me.

Every...

Things that annoy me get me, uh, fired up.

And when I was doing...

You know, I did the Magua books and my music books and things like that, and you'd, you'd do interviews with, like, you know, websites and this, that, and the other, and it'd be, you know, to, to promote an event.

And I was doing one in Manchester, and the, um, and the article, which I'd, you know, given a great deal of time to, uh, appeared in a Factory Records stylee five days after the event happened.

Yeah

Yeah,

it was.

I mean, again, thanks to Granada again.

I'd always wanted to make a documentary about...

this myth of Sex Pistols playing a gig in Manchester at the Leicester Free Trade Hall.

Only a few people were there.

Allegedly, people claimed to have been there, but it was the influence of it and the bands that came out of it, Buzzcocks, Joy Division, Smiths, Fall, Factory Records, Hacienda, all came from people who attended the two gigs that the Pistols played in 76.

It's for losers.

So who were the people who went, who attended the pub?

Well, I mean, I don't want to say all of that, David, because that's the premise of the book after all.

Right, go on.

But I think it's almost interesting who wasn't there.

And Tony Wilson is, God bless him, you know, always swore that he was there.

Swore.

and get very annoyed.

You know, and they're going to kind of make a real effort and become part of this pantomime.