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David Murray

David Murray

Motion graphics designer and husband of the late cookbook designer Debbie Berne, who appeared on the Cookbook Love Podcast to help publish her posthumous book "Cookbooking: A Fan's Guide."

Sep 24, 2026

8:24
So how did she bridge this then to cook the cookbook world?
8:29
Well, what happened is she designed hundreds of books over a 20-year career, and she was starting to wonder if maybe she wanted to step into a different role.
8:41
She started looking around at jobs as an art director for different publishers and decided that maybe that wasn't for her.
8:50
And then she came up with this idea of doing some writing, coming back around to her early passion for writing, but in a nonfiction way.
9:00
And she had spent so many conversations explaining to somebody what it means to design a book.
9:07
Like people just can't wrap their head around the fact that every word on the page was put there by a designer and the margins and everything.
9:16
So she decided to try to put that into words once and for all.

16 MINS LATER

25:14
Dave, why don't you tell us a little bit about what happened then?

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