What do they have in store for us, Professor, and how can we stay one step ahead of them?

Well, this is a unit called the HMG Russia unit, which was set up following what they call the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014.

And the purpose of this unit was to coordinate all of British intelligence covert operations in relation to Europe, Eastern Europe, Russia and the Caucasus.

This became apparent to me when some information was released by the Russian intelligence services, the FSB, following a sting which they conducted on some British diplomats in Russia, in Moscow.

And they expelled those diplomats and then they released all this information to the Russian media.

And I looked at this information and I thought, this is from the FSB.

I'm going to have to check this.

but I've not heard a cheep about it other than from Professor David Miller.

Is it right that it was a group of students that actually complained?

So, well, I started at the University of Bristol in October 2018.

I'd previously been professor of sociology at Strathclyde from 2004, then in Bath from 2012.

And on the 18th of February, I gave this lecture on Islamophobia, part of a course on what was called harms of the powerful, which I'd been given when I arrived.

And in that lecture, I spent about three and a half minutes talking about the role of Zionism in pushing Islamophobia based on research that I'd done.

Now, we know it's three and a half minutes because one of the students recorded it and leaked it later to the Jewish news.

So you can go back and listen to what it was exactly I said, which caused all of that.

I was really, yeah.

So what is Jewish imperialism or Pax Judaica as you've called it?

Well, I think what we've seen in the last two years probably is a renewed discussion of the question of Jewish supremacy.

Now, this really sends many people clutching for their pearls, including some anti-Zionists.

And I think it's important to try and tease out what that is and what it means and what it doesn't mean.

So, you know, Zionism is an ideology which as we've determined in the court, which is racist, which believes that Jews have more rights in Palestine than do the indigenous people of Palestine, the Palestinians.

And that's a supremacist idea, just as the idea that white Boers who worshiped with the Dutch Reformed Church had more right in South Africa than did the black people of South Africa.

That was a supremacist ideology.

What do you say to those people?

Now, your X post sets the scene concisely, but just remind us when this all actually began.

Well, it began in, uh, on the 18th of February 2019 when I did a lecture on Islamophobia, a two-hour long lecture in which I spoke for three minutes, 44 seconds, uh, on the Zionist movement and some aspects of the Zionist movement.

And we know it was that long because one of the students present recorded that section of the lecture and leaked it sometime later to the Jewish News.

Uh, and it was said that what I said in that lecture was, uh, absolutely outrageous.

I had focused on individual Jewish businessmen who were said to be responsible for Islamophobia.

Of course, that's not what I had suggested, but that was the complaint which was made anonymously to the university.

Uh, that complaint was dismissed.

Um, but, uh, does that mean that because it is a legal precedent that, that they may feel that they're forced to actually take this to the Supreme Court?

Uh, I'd be interested, first of all, in your initial reaction to the fact that this legislation is even on the statute books at this point.

point.Well, this is a piece of legislation which, as you say, has been rushed through, but it's been rushed through, uh, after a previous piece of legislation in 2023, uh, the National Security Act was put on the statute books.

And it looks to me like what's happened here is that they have realized that the, uh, National Security Act is not sufficient for their needs.

And their needs are that they lock up large numbers of people who are willing to stand up against genocide.

Uh, and so they've ha- they've had to find a way to extend the powers that existed in the 2023 act.

Uh, and, and that, of course, is this nonsense about, um, making use of information, uh, which has some kind of value.

Now, of course, how they're going to, uh, distill or determine what is the value of a piece of information.

law.Uh, uh, and David, uh, you know, the question then is how, how should people react to this? Is, is it too late to do anything about it? Because, uh, you know, in the course of the various, uh, debates, if you could call those debates, um, there was some discussion about this being actually only a median step, but they were looking for something much broader to follow.

This is absolutely fascinating because when we talk on a day-to-day basis, it's always Israel or America versus Iran.

Iran was a British colony.

And the purpose of this was, of course, to steal Iran's oil.

And they had a client regime there, the Shah.

And there was a revolution of sorts where the president, Mossadegh, nationalized the oil.

And as a result, the Americans and the British launched a coup against Mossadegh.

Now, the CIA were reluctant to do this, and it took MI6 a long time to convince them that they should come in on the matter.

How did this