In this conversation, I'm speaking with David Mazur, vice president, general counsel, and compliance officer for research and development at Nestle.

Traditional way of working is you would start with a template.

You would start, you know, customizing the template to your needs or to the specific situation.

And I think with AI, really some of the, let's say, more standard adaptations to the template, like in my case, IP allocations and so on, they can be done much more quicker, and actually you can spend more time on thinking, "Hey, what's the, what's the right strategy here? What's the right deal to be struck?" So you, you're thinking as a lawyer, I would say, to put it a bit- Graphically, kind of you, you need to think a level higher.

And corporate lawyers are n- are of course spending a lot of time doing legal work, legal advice, but we also spend time, for example, communicating with our stakeholders, uh, influencing our stakeholders.

Today, there's a lot of very practical gen AI tools for generating educational videos, for, uh, generating like, um, nice little snippets you can put on your intranet.

And this is not necessarily the kind of things that lawyers like to spend time on, nor typically are very good at, to make it very visually appealing.

Oh, experimenting, but we, we wanna be perfect, and it's hard to kind of get the mindsets around that, I guess.