What was that transition? Was that about the circle of people around you? Was it a personal approach to go, you're ready to really learn more about that site?

When I left Accenture, I sort of took some time down time because I'd been working since I was very young.

And other than that year in France, it had been full on the whole time.

So, and even that year in France was full on study.

So, it was okay, we're going to step back a little bit and do a few more things.

COVID then hit, so that sort of kiboshed all the travel plans.

We're going to go out and re-explore and do all those sort of things.

And my gosh, it's been a huge couple of years for Tour de Cure, but you've also been on the board for the better part of a decade.