They're always after a bloody co-write.

So this seemed to be, I don't quite know exactly what their thoughts were on what they thought Natasha was going to be or wanted to be or what they thought Natasha ought to be or anything like that.

But for some reason, I was at a point in my life where I think I'd produced three or four artists, not particularly successfully, but I'd released my own music as an artist.

And they thought that I was prime material for, to get on with Natasha and help things along on a songwriting front.

And it became clear within about three seconds of meeting Natasha that there was no fucking way that was happening.

And she wasn't remotely interested in co-writing, I think probably with anyone.

But when I was listening to those demos that the publisher played me, it didn't make any sense anyway.

Just had some